
    Norris G. HOLDER, Petitioner, v. UNITED STATES of America, Respondent.
    No: 16-2207
    United States Court of Appeals, Eighth Circuit.
    Date Filed: 07/26/2016
    Rehearing En Banc Denied September 13, 2016 
    
    
      Scott Braden, Federal Public Defender’s Office, Little Rock, AR, Madeline S. Cohen, Boulder, CO, for Petitioner.
    Norris G. Holder, Terre Haute, IN, Pro Se.
    Allison Hart Behrens, Joseph M. Lan-dolt, Cristian Matthew Stevens, Eastern District of Missouri, Saint Louis, MO, for Respondent.
    Before RILEY, Chief Judge, WOLLMAN and MELLOY, Circuit Judges.
    
      
       Judge Kelly would grant the petition for rehearing en banc. Judge Gruender did not participate in the consideration or decision of this matter.
    
   JUDGMENT

PER CURIAM

Norris G. Holder’s motion for authorization to file a second or successive motion under 28 U.S.C. § 2255 based on Johnson v. United States, — U.S. —, 135 S.Ct. 2551, 192 L.Ed.2d 569 (2015), and Welch v. United States, — U.S. —, 136 S.Ct. 1257, 194 L.Ed.2d 387 (2016), has been considered by the court and is denied, because bank robbery in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 2113(a) and (e) is a “crime of violence” under 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)(3)(A). See United States v. Boman, 810 F.3d 534, 543 (8th Cir. 2016) (holding that the crime of federal robbery under 18 U.S.C. § 2111, which must be committed “by force and violence, or by intimidation,” “ha[s] as an element the ‘attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against the person of another’ ”); In re Hines, 824 F.3d 1334, 1336-37 (11th Cir.2016) (“[A] conviction for armed bank robbery clearly meets the requirement ... to include as an element, ‘the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against the person or property of another.”); United States v. McNeal, 818 F.3d 141, 152-53 (4th Cir. 2016) (holding that “armed bank robbery is unquestionably a crime of violence, because it ‘has as an element the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force,’ ” and observing that “[o]ur sister circuits have uniformly ruled that other federal crimes involving takings ‘by force and violence, or by intimidation,’ have as an element the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force.”).

MELLOY, Circuit Judge,

Dissenting.

I would grant the application to file a successive habeas motion under 28 U.S.C. § 2255 because Holder has presented an argument of sufficient merit to clear the low bar for obtaining permission to file such a motion. See Woods v. United States, 805 F.3d 1152, 1153 (8th Cir. 2015) (per curiam) (“A prima facie showing is ‘simply a sufficient showing of possible merit to warrant a fuller exploration by the district court.’ ” (quoting Bennett v. United States, 119 F.3d 468, 469 (7th Cir. 1997))); see also, In re Hubbard, Movant, 825 F.3d 225 (4th Cir.2016) (noting that, “while determining whether to authorize a successive petition” a court’s analysis of the merits should be limited to a “cursory glance”).

Regarding the potential applicability of Johnson v. United States, — U.S. —, 135 S.Ct. 2551, 192 L.Ed.2d 569 (2015), and Welch v. United States, — U.S. —, 136 S.Ct. 1257, 194 L.Ed.2d 387 (2016), to 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)(8)(B), a circuit split has developed in which the majority of circuits to have spoken conclude Johnson applies to § 924(c)(3)(B), applies to the identical language of 18 U.S.C. § 16(b), or, at a minimum, successive habeas motions should be allowed as to this issue. See In re Hubbard, Movant, 825 F.3d 225 (4th Cir.2016) (granting permission to file a successive habeas motion because the mov-ant made a prima facie showing that Johnson may invalidate 8 U.S.C. § 16(b)); In re Pinder, Petitioner, 824 F.3d 977 (11th Cir. 2016) (granting permission to file a successive habeas motion because the movant made a prima facie showing that Johnson may invalidate 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)(3)(B)); In re Encinias, 821 F.3d 1224, 1226 (10th Cir.2016) (granting permission for a successive habeas to proceed as to the possible application of Johnson to U.S.S.G. § 4B1.2(a)(2)); United States v. Gonzalez-Longoria, 813 F.3d 225, 235 (5th Cir.2016) (en banc review currently pending) (holding in a direct appeal that 18 U.S.C. § 16(b) is unconstitutionally vague in light of Johnson); Dimaya v. Lynch, 803 F.3d 1110, 1120 (9th Cir. 2015) (holding in the context of an immigration proceeding that 18 U.S.C. § 16(b) is unconstitutionally vague in light of Johnson); United States v. Vivas-Ceja, 808 F.3d 719, 723 (7th Cir. 2015) (holding in a direct appeal that 18 U.S.C. § 16(b) is unconstitutionally vague in light of Johnson). The Sixth Circuit has held Johnson does not apply to § 924(c)(3)(B), United States v. Taylor, 814 F.3d 340 (6th Cir. 2016), and the Fifth Circuit has denied permission to file a successive motion seeking to apply Johnson to § 924(c)(3)(B), In re Fields, 826 F.3d 785 (5th Cir.2016).

Regarding the applicability of the “force” clause of 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)(3)(A), to Holder’s bank robbery conviction, I believe, again, there exists a question that merits further examination at the district court. Notwithstanding the egregious facts of his offense, Holder was not convicted of armed bank robbery, 18 U.S.C. § 2113(d). Rather he was convicted of bank robbery pursuant to § 2113(a) (1994) and § 2113(e) (1994). Our circuit has held the mens rea for the federal bank robbery offense, § 2113(a) does not attach to the use of violence or intimidation. See United States v. Pickar, 616 F.3d 821, 825 (8th Cir. 2010) (finding that the. federal bank robbery statute does not require a knowing or intentional mens rea in association with the use of force or intimidation); United States v. Yockel, 320 F.3d 818, 824 (8th Cir. 2003) (“The district court correctly concluded the mens rea element of bank robbery did not apply to the element of intimidation[.]”). Pursuant to Leocal v. Ashcroft, 543 U.S. 1, 9, 125 S.Ct. 377, 160 L.Ed.2d 271 (2004), “[t]he key phrase ... the ‘use ... of physical force against the person or property of another’ — most naturally suggests a higher degree of intent than negligent or merely accidental conduct.” (quoting 18 U.S.C. § 16(b)). To the extent United States v. Boman, 810 F.3d 534, 542-43 (8th Cir. 2016), reaches a different conclusion as to the general federal robbery statute, 18 U.S.C. § 2111, Boman did not expressly examine the mens rea attachéd to the intimidation element of the offense.

While it is not at this point clear how the combined offense of § 2113(a) and (e) might be committed in a manner not involving actual violence or not involving knowing or intentional intimidation, I do not view our role in approving or denying applications to file successive § 2255 motions to require resolution of such questions. We should not err on the side of cutting off argument; we should allow such motions to proceed where there is “a sufficient showing of possible merit to warrant a fuller exploration by the district court.” Woods, 805 F.3d at 1153. 
      
      . Although the Fifth .Circuit reached this holding as to § 16(b) in a direct appeal case, the same circuit refused to permit a successive habeas seeking to apply Johnson to U.S.S.G. § 4B1.2(a)(2), In re Arnick, 826 F.3d 787 (5th Cir.2016), or to § 924(c)(3)(B), In re Fields, 826 F.3d 785.
     
      
      . Although In re Encinias is a Guidelines case rather than a § 16(b) or § 924(c) case, it demonstrates the Tenth Circuit’s willingness to allow a successive habeas to proceed in relation to a possible extension of Johnson.
     