
    Leslie F. WOODARD, Appellant, v. UNITED STATES of America, Appellee.
    No. 22752.
    United States Court of Appeals, District of Columbia Circuit.
    Argued Oct. 1, 1969.
    Decided June 4, 1970.
    Petition for Rehearing Denied September 17, 1970.
    Mr. Lawrence P. Lataif, Washington, D. C. (appointed by this court) for appellant. Mr. William W. Greenhalgh, Washington, D. C. (appointed by this court) was on the brief, for appellant.
    Mr. Robert C. Crimmins, Asst. U. S. Atty., of the bar of the Court of Appeals of New York, pro hac vice, by special leave of court, with whom Messrs. Thomas A. Flannery, U. S. Atty., and Roger E. Zuckerman, Asst. U. S. Atty., were on the brief, for appellee. Mr. John A. Terry, Asst. U. S. Atty., also entered an appearance for appellee.
    Before BAZELON, Chief Judge, WILBUR K. MILLER, Senior Circuit Judge, and MacKINNON, Circuit Judge.
   MaeKINNON, Circuit Judge:

On May 14, 1957, Woodard’s prior testimony at a suppression hearing was admitted against him as affirmative evidence of guilt during his trial in which he was found guilty of robbery, interstate transportation of a forged instrument and unauthorized use of a motor vehicle. Upon conviction he was sentenced to imprisonment for a term of two to ten years for robbery and to terms of one to three years on each of the other offenses, all sentences to run concurrently. On appeal to this court he contended his motion to suppress certain incriminating evidence which police had seized at the request of the householder where Woodard was staying as a guest had been improperly denied. We affirmed in Woodard v. United States, 102 U.S. App.D.C. 393, 254 F.2d 312, cert. denied, 357 U.S. 930, 78 S.Ct. 1375, 2 L.Ed. 2d 1372 (1958). All sentences, except that for robbery, have now been fully served.

In 1968 the Supreme Court handed down its decision in Simmons v. United States, 390 U.S. 377, 88 S.Ct. 967, 19 L.Ed.2d 1247 (1968), holding that testimony given by a defendant at his suppression hearing was not admissible against him at trial on the issue of guilt. In 1967, this court had announced the same rule in Bailey v. United States, 128 U.S.App.D.C. 354, 389 F.2d 305 (1967) (hereafter Simmons and Bailey). This appeal arises from a denial of Woodard’s motion initiated in March 1967 under 28 U.S.C. § 2255 to vacate and set aside the judgment of conviction in support of which he contends that the decisions in Simmons and Bailey require retroactive effect. We decide that neither of these decisions are to be given retroactive effect and affirm.

Appellant’s original petition to this court to allow his appeal without prepayment of costs was denied. Subsequently he petitioned for a rehearing en banc and we then vacated our previous order, sua sponte, and allowed the appellant to proceed in forma pauperis. The order allowing the appellant to proceed expressly limited the issue on appeal to whether the principle anounced in Simmons and Bailey applies retroactively to appellant and, if so, to what extent it affects his conviction and sentence.

The ultimate fact at issue here revolves around certain evidence introduced by the Government in the original trial consisting of admissions made by appellant at a hearing in support of his unsuccessful motion to suppress certain evidence. Appellant made the admissions for the purpose of gaining standing to attack the admissibility of certain evidence which he contended was obtained by an illegal search and seizure. The trial court denied the motion to suppress and later allowed the admissions to be introduced into evidence. We will assume, in this opinion, that the jury could not have returned a verdict of guilty without appellant’s admissions.

In Bailey we held in 1967 that the defendant’s testimony at a suppression hearing could not be used affirmatively against him at trial. Later, in 1968, the Supreme Court handed down a similar decision in Simmons where the testimony of one Garrett (a co-defendant) given at his unsuccessful suppression hearing was admitted at trial over his attorney’s timely objection. The Supreme Court reversed the conviction reasoning as follows:

“Thus, in this case Garrett was obliged either to give up what he believed, with advice of counsel, to be a valid Fourth Amendment claim or, in legal effect, to waive his Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination. In these circumstances, we find it intolerable that one constitutional right should have to be surrendered in order to assert another. We therefore hold that when a defendant testifies in support of a motion to suppress evidence on Fourth Amendment grounds, his testimony may not thereafter be admitted against him at trial on the issue of guilt unless he makes no objection.” Simmons v. United States, 390 U.S. at 394, 88 S.Ct. at 976.

Reading the Simmons and Bailey cases together, we can see that a defendant in a criminal case, in all instances, has the right to challenge searches and seizures without the fear of having his testimony used affirmatively against him at trial. Assuming the case at bar is one where appellant’s own admissions supplied the link necessary to make out a prima facie case for the Government, we come to the question of retroactivity of the decisions.

Retroactivity has long been a topic for studies in jurisprudence and the Supreme Court has had occasion to deal with the question in criminal trials involving constitutional issues. Chief Justice Warren in Johnson v. New Jersey, 384 U.S. 719, 726-727, 86 S.Ct. 1772, 1777, 16 L.Ed.2d 882 (1966), stated:

“ * * * [I]n criminal litigation concerning constitutional claims, ‘the Court may in the interest of justice make the rule prospective * * * where the exigencies of the situation require such an application.’ ”

In later opinions the Court defined the exigencies of the situation as (1) the purpose of the principle under consideration, (2) the extent to which law enforcement personnel may have justifiably relied upon prior law, and (3) the probable impact of the retroactive application upon the administration of criminal justice. Desist v. United States, 394 U.S. 244, 249, 89 S.Ct. 1030, 22 L.Ed.2d 248 (1969); Stovall v. Denno, 388 U.S. 293, 297, 87 S.Ct. 1967, 18 L.Ed.2d 1199 (1967).

I

The purpose of the Simmons-Bailey rule is to protect defendants’ Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights at trial and the purposes of the Fourth and Fifth Amendments are to protect individual rights in their persons, houses, papers and effects against invasion and to protect individuals from being compelled to give testimony against themselves. Pri- or to the announcement of the rule, many decisions had afforded protection to an individual’s Fourth Amendment rights separately from his Fifth Amendment rights but it was not until Simmons and Bailey that the courts eliminated the “Hobson’s choice” in suppression hearings that many defendants had faced over the years. It is true that the Supreme Court alluded to the problem in Jones v. United States, 362 U.S. 257, 262, 80 S.Ct. 725, 731, 4 L.Ed.2d 697 (1960), which quoted Judge Learned Hand:

“ ‘Men may wince at admitting that they were the owners, or in possession, of contraband property; may wish at once to secure the remedies of a possessor, and avoid the perils of the part; but equivocation will not serve. If they come as victims, they must take on that role, with enough detail to cast them without question. The petitioners- at bar shrank from that predicament ; but they were obliged to choose one horn of the dilemma.’ Connolly v. Medalie, 2 Cir., 58 F.2d 629, 630.”

In 1967 this court delivered its opinion in Bailey holding that a defendant could testify at suppression hearings without having such testimony used affirmatively against him at trial. It has a special bearing on this case to note, despite our holding that Bailey’s constitutional rights had been infringed, that we did not reverse his conviction because the evidence taken as a whole established that the error was harmless beyond a reasonable doubt. In doing so we stated:

“We do not, however, reverse in this case because, applying the rule of Chapman v. State of California, 386 U.S. 18, 87 S.Ct. 824, 17 L.Ed.2d 705 (1967), we find beyond a reasonable doubt that appellant Frye was not prejudiced. The only issue at the hearing on his motion to suppress was whether the police had probable cause to make an arrest. In his brief on appeal Frye argues that he would have testified on the question of just when the arrest occurred. * * * Frye could not have been prejudiced since we have found that there was probable cause at the earliest possible time the arrest can in law be said to have been made. * * * If Frye wished to testify as to his non-participation, he should have done so at trial.” Bailey v. United States, supra, 128 U.S.App. D.C. at 360-361, 389 F.2d at 311-312.

In Chapman v. California, 386 U.S. 18, 23, 87 S.Ct. 824, 827, 17 L.Ed.2d 705 (1967), Justice Clark said:

“Although our prior cases have indicated that there are some constitutional rights so basic to a fair trial that their infraction can never be treated as harmless error, this * * * belies any belief that all trial errors which violate the Constitution automatically call for reversal.”

Chapman, supra, involved the application of the rule as laid down in Griffin v. California, 380 U.S. 609, 85 S.Ct. 1229, 14 L.Ed.2d 106 (1965), that neither the prosecutor nor the court may make comments on a defendant’s failure to testify on his own behalf at trial. The Supreme Court held that the rule laid down in Griffin, supra, was not one of those constitutional rights so basic as to make every past violation of it reversible error.

Previously, Tehan v. United States ex rel. Shott, 382 U.S. 406, 86 S.Ct. 459, 15 L.Ed.2d 453 (1966), had also dealt with the question of the retroactivity of the rule laid down in Griffin, supra, saying:

“The Griffin opinion reasoned that such comment ‘is a penalty imposed by courts for exercising a constitutional privilege. It cuts down on the privilege by making its assertion costly.’ 380 U.S. at 614 [85 S.Ct. at 1233].” 382 U.S.. at 414, 86 S.Ct. at 464.
“[T]he basic purposes that lie behind the privilege against self-incrimination do not relate to protecting the innocent from conviction, but rather to preserving the integrity of a judicial system in which even the guilty are not to be convicted unless the prosecution ‘shoulder the entire load.’ ” 382 U.S. at 415, 86 S.Ct. at 464.
“The basic purpose of a trial is the determination of truth, and it is self-evident that to deny a lawyer’s help through the technical intricacies of a criminal trial or to deny a full opportunity to appeal a conviction because the accused is poor is to impede that purpose and to infect a criminal proceeding with the clear danger of convicting the innocent. See Gideon v. Wainwright, 372 U.S. 335 [83 S.Ct. 792, 9 L.Ed.2d 799] ; Doughty v. Maxwell, 376 U.S. 202 [84 S.Ct. 702, 11 L.Ed.2d 650]; Griffin v. Illinois, 351 U.S. 12 [2 L.Ed.2d 1269]; Eskridge v. Washington Prison Board, 357 U.S. 214 [78 S.Ct. 1061, 76 S.Ct. 585, 100 L.Ed. 891]. The same can surely be said of the wrongful use of a coerced confession. See Jackson v. Denno, 378 U.S. 368 [84 S.Ct. 1774, 12 L.Ed.2d 908]; McNerlin v. Denno, 378 U.S. 575 [84 S.Ct. 1933, 12 L.Ed.2d 1041]; Reck v. Pate, 367 U.S. 433 [81 S,Ct. 1541, 6 L.Ed.2d 948]. By contrast, the Fifth Amendment’s privilege against self-incrimination is not an adjunct to the ascertainment of truth. That privilege, like the guarantees of the Fourth Amendment, stands as a protection of quite different constitutional values — values reflecting the concern of our society for the right of each individual to be let alone.” Emphasis added). 382 U.S. at 416, 86 S.Ct. at 465.

The Supreme Court in a number of instances has refused to give a retroactive application to decisions expanding constitutional guarantees. In Chapman v. California, supra, which was still pending when Griffin was decided, the Supreme Court applied the “harmless error beyond a reasonable doubt” rule to its holding in Griffin. In Tehan, supra, where the defendant was convicted before Griffin was announced, the Supreme Court refused to apply Griffin retroactively. In Linkletter v. Walker, 381 U.S. 618, 85 S.Ct. 1731, 14 L.Ed.2d 601 (1965), a retroactive application for Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643, 81 S.Ct. 1684, 6 L.Ed.2d 1081 (1961) was declined, in Johnson v. New Jersey, supra, the Court refused a retroactive application to Escobedo and Miranda, and in Desist v. United States, supra, the decision in Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347, 88 S.Ct. 507, 19 L.Ed.2d 576 (1967) involving Fourth Amendment rights, was applied prospectively only. These decisions indicate that the purpose of the rule laid down in Simmons and Bailey is not one the violation of which is always to be considered prejudicial since the purpose of the constitutional privileges against self-incrimination and unreasonable searches is not to aid in the search for truth. In fact, in many cases where these privileges are asserted they operate to prevent the full truth from being known. Tested by this standard, the purpose of the rule in Simmons and Bailey does not require retroactive application. Indeed, in holding that Simmons need not be applied retroactively, the Second Circuit observed:

“Since the rule is not concerned with the reliability of the defendant’s suppression hearing testimony, the integrity and reliability of the fact finding process, which is a fundamental factor influencing retroactivity, is not involved.” United States v. Hart, 407 F.2d 1087, 1090 (2d Cir.), cert. denied, 395 U.S. 916, 89 S.Ct. 1766, 23 L.Ed.2d 231 (1969).

II

We next consider the extent to which the Government was justified in relying upon the prior rule of law. One of the critical factors involved in that determination is whether Simmons and Bailey were “new law” since this goes to the merit of such reliance. Appellant argues that the two cases should not be considered to be new law because he contends they were “foreshadowed” by Jones v. United States, supra.

In first considering Simmons, we note that case overruled the law in half the federal circuits, to wit: United States v. Taylor, 326 F.2d 277 (4th Cir.), cert. denied, 377 U.S. 931, 84 S.Ct. 1332, 12 L.Ed.2d 295 (1964); Monroe v. United States, 320 F.2d 277 (5th Cir. 1963), cert. denied, 375 U.S. 991, 84 S.Ct. 630, 11 L.Ed.2d 478 (1964); Fowler v. United States, 239 F.2d 93 (10th Cir. 1956); Kaiser v. United States, 60 F.2d 410 (8th Cir. 1932); Heller v. United States, 57 F.2d 627 (7th Cir. 1932). Furthermore, it is clear that Bailey was the first clear statement of the rule in this circuit. See Washington v. United States, 100 U.S. App.D.C. 99, 243 F.2d 43, cert. denied, 354 U.S. 914, 77 S.Ct. 1295, 1 L.Ed.2d 1427 (1957).

On the issue here being discussed, appellant’s principal contention is that Simmons and Bailey should be applied with complete retroactivity because they were both “foreshadowed” by Jones. The complete answer to this contention, even if we were to admit that they were so “foreshadowed,” is that Jones was not decided until March 28, 1960. This was more than 34 months after the trial court admitted Woodard’s suppression hearing testimony at his trial, and we are not cited to any earlier case so holding. This was also well after appellant had been convicted and his appeal had been denied. Woodard v. United States, supra. Therefore we conclude that the trial court was fully justified in relying on the then existing rule that statements of the defendant made at the suppression hearing were admissible against him as affirmative evidence at trial.

Ill

Finally, we consider the impact of the retroactive application of the rule upon the administration of justice. Upon this issue appellant contends that the Government has the burden of demonstrating that the administration of justice would suffer if Simmons and Bailey were applied retroactively.

In this respect it is noted that if the holding were to be applied retroactively all past criminal cases in which the admissibility of physical evidence was an issue because it had been seized in a search would fall into two groups. First, would be those cases where the prisoner had not moved to suppress the evidence. In these cases he would contend he had been prejudiced because he had been forced to waive his Fourth Amendment rights, which would have permitted him to attack the unconstitutional search and seizure, so that he could at trial assert his Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination. Secondly, would be those cases where the prisoner had moved to suppress the evidence, had testified and his suppression testimony had been admitted affirmatively against him at his trial. In such cases he would contend that he had been prejudiced because he had been forced to waive his Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination in order to assert his Fourth Amendment rights against an unconstitutional search and seizure. Thus, virtually, every case in which physical evidence had been seized and introduced at trial would be opened up for a new trial on collateral attack if Simmons and Bailey were applied retroactively despite the fact that the claim of prejudice did not go to the question of guilt or innocence. If new trials resulted, the passage of time would make it difficult if not impossible to reconstruct the cases. Time would have wrought havoc on the witnesses and the evidence. Many witnesses would be lost, some would have forgotten the facts or suffered some diminution of memory and others would have died. At best, their evidence would be stale. Physical evidence would in most cases have been destroyed or released. In such circumstances we find that the administration of justice would suffer materially.

After full consideration of the applicable standards, we decide that the exigencies of the situation require that Simmons and Bailey should not be applied retroactively.

Affirmed.

BAZELON, Chief Judge

(dissenting):

Contrary to the majority in this case, I believe that none of those factors which the Supreme Court has instructed us to consider as bearing upon the question of retroactivity can properly lead to the conclusion that the rule of Simmons and Bailey does not apply to the present case. Accordingly, I dissent.

1. The purpose of the rule. Simmons and Bailey make clear that testimony given by a criminal defendant to establish standing to challenge the admissibility of evidence may not later be used against him at trial. Such a rule, as applied to trials already concluded, may protect two classes of defendants. The first class consists of those, such as the appellant here, who sacrificed their Fifth Amendment right to silence in order to present their Fourth Amendment claim. The second class consists of those who, to preserve their Fifth Amendment rights, did not so testify and therefore lost their Fourth Amendment claims.

Whatever may be the case with the latter class of defendants — a question not presented by this record — appellant and persons similarly situated have foregone their Fifth Amendment right to silence in order to pursue their Fourth Amendment claim. As to these persons, therefore, the purpose of the Simmons rule is to prevent the extortion of testimony from defendants who wish to remain silent. Coerced, self-incriminating testimony is excluded from trials not simply for reasons relating to the integrity of the judicial system, but also because its accuracy is suspect. Murphy v. Waterfront Commission of New York Harbor, 378 U.S. 52, 53, 55, 84 S.Ct. 1594, 12 L.Ed.2d 678 (1964). The majority’s quotations from Tehan v. United States ex rel. Shott are not to the contrary. For the Supreme Court in Tehan was dealing with the converse of the present situation: no testimony had been compelled, and the point in question was why comment upon a defendant’s failure to testify was forbidden by the Fifth-Amendment. The Court did not purport to examine the rationale for the privilege in situations not before it: it discussed the matter only “[ijnsofar as these ‘purposes’ of the Fifth Amendment privilege against compulsory self-incrimination bear on the question before us in the present case.” Consequently, I conclude that the rule of Simmons and Bailey, as applied to the present class of cases, is one that serves to protect the integrity of the fact-finding process. Aecordingly, the purpose of the rule points toward retroactive application.

2. Reliance on prior standards. The trial court here relied on Washington v. United States. The entire opinion in that case is as follows:

This appeal is from a conviction of bribery (three counts). We find no error.

Affirmed.

As the majority opinion admits, any reliance that may be placed on this opinion must come from an examination of the briefs in the case. I am dubious about the proposition that an affirmance by order implies approval of any particular point argued in the brief of the prevailing party. Even if this is so, it is hard to see how reliance could be placed on Washington after our en banc decision, later the same year, in Wright v. United States. Wright held that a defendant could “challenge the voluntariness of his confession outside the jury’s presence without waiving his privilege against self-incrimination,” and the court in Bailey — the retroactivity of which we consider today — could see “no sound reason why the rule should be different where the defendant challenges the admissibility of non-testimonial evidence at the hearing on his motion to suppress.” In short, the court in Bailey found the question not only foreshadowed but disposed of by citation of Wright and a section of Wigmore on Evidence. In these circumstances, I cannot give substantial weight to a claim of reliance on Washington.

3. The effect of retroactive application upon the administration of justice. The majority concludes that “virtually every case in which physical evidence had been seized and introduced at trial would be opened up for a new trial on collateral attack if Simmons and Bailey were applied retroactively” in this case. I do not believe the premise will support the conclusion. Of course, we are not here concerned with cases in which the defendant did not testify at the suppression hearing — or, for that matter, with cases in which the defendant did so testify but in which his testimony was not used against him. We are concerned only with cases such as the present one in which (a) the defendant testified at the suppression hearing, (b) his testimony was incriminating, and (c) it was later used against him. Although the government has presented no informaregarding the frequency with which these factors would all occur, it seems to me that the number of cases that would actually be affected by retroactive application of Simmons and Bailey — at least in this circuit — would be vanishingly small. Washington v. United States appears to be the only case in this jurisdiction prior to Bailey in which the issue has ever even appeared. One case strikes me as insufficient grounds upon which to posit an overwhelming impact upon the administration of justice.

In sum, I believe that the purpose of the rule of Simmons and Bailey, sc far as it concerns persons who have been compelled to testify to present their Fourth Amendment claims, bears a substantial relationship to the accuracy of the fact-finding process at trial. I believe that Bailey itself was clearly foreshadowed if not predetermined by our en banc decision in Wright v. United States in 1957. Finally, I can see virtually no impact whatsoever on the administration of justice stemming from retroactive application'of the rule in the present circumstances. Accordingly, I would reach the question whether introduction of appellant’s statements at trial was harmless error; and if not, I would reverse the judgment below and order the convictions vacated. 
      
      . “A prisoner in custody under sentence of a court established by Act of Congress claiming the right to be released upon the ground that the sentence was imposed in violation of the Constitution or laws of the United States, or that the court was without jurisdiction to impose such sentence, or that the sentence was in excess of the maximum authorized by law, or is otherwise subject to collateral attack, may move the court which imposed the sentence to vacate, set aside or correct the sentence.
      “A motion for such relief may be made at any time.
      ‘‘Unless the motion and the files and records of the case conclusively show that the prisoner is entitled to no relief, the court shall cause notice thereof to be served upon the United States attorney, grant a prompt hearing thereon, determine the issues and make findings of fact and conclusions of law with respect thereto. If the court finds that the judgment was rendered without jurisdiction, or that the sentence imposed was not authorized by law or otherwise open to collateral attack, or that there had been such a denial or infringement of the constitutional rights of the prisoner as to render the judgment vulnerable to collateral attack, the court shall vacate and set the judgment aside and shall discharge the prisoner or re-sentence him or grant a new trial or correct the sentence as may appear appropriate.
      “A court may entertain and determine such motion without requiring the production of the prisoner at the hearing.
      “The sentencing court shall not be required to entertain a second or successive motion for similar relief on behalf of the same prisoner.
      “An appeal may be taken to the court of appeals from the order entered on the motion as from a final judgment on application for a writ of habeas corpus.
      “An application for a writ of habeas corpus in behalf of a prisoner who is authorized to apply for relief by motion pursuant to this section, shall not be entertained if it appears that the applicant has failed to apply for relief, by motion, to the court which sentenced him, or that such court has denied him relief, unless it also appears that the remedy by motion is inadequate or ineffective to test the legality of his detention.”
     
      
      . The Government contends there was substantial evidence to convict appellant, even without the admissions.
     
      
      . Prior to Simmons and Bailey, such right was limited to cases where the crime was one of a possessory nature, i. e., where a defendant had to testify that he was the possessor of certain stolen property in order to establish standing. Jones v. United States, 362 U.S. 257, 80 S.Ct. 725, 4 L.Ed.2d 697 (1960).
     
      
      . When we announced the rule in Bailey we applied the Chapman harmless error rule which we would not have done if there had been doubt as to the truthfulness of material parts of the testimony.
     
      
      . It is not sound to require courts to conform to foreshadowed law in the trial of criminal cases. After all, “foreshadowing” the United States Supreme Court is not an exact science despite the reference thereto in Johnson v. New Jersey, 384 U.S. 719, 86 S.Ct. 1772, 16 L.Ed.2d 882 (1966), which dealt with closely related issues. At best there are too many indeterminate factors, including the composition of the Court, that would influence any attempt to decide what “new law” the Supreme Court will next decide.
     
      
      . At trial the Assistant United States Attorney orally stated that he was relying upon this ease for authority to read appellant’s suppression hearing statements to the jury. Washington v. United States, supra, was affirmed by order in the Court of Appeals. At the trial of Woodard the original transcript and briefs in Washington were presented to the court to prove its holding. The dissenting opinion in attacking the reference to Washington v. United States, 100 U.S.App.D.C. 99, 243 F.2d 43 (1957), in the trial court proceedings incorrectly assumes we are relying on the holding of the ease. We are not. That opinion is not important here for the merit of its decision but solely to prove that the Government at the trial in 1957 relied upon the rule of law it embodied. The extent of the reliance by law enforcement authorities on old standards is one criteria to consider in determining whether a new rule of law will be retroactive. Stovall v. Denno, 388 U.S. 293, 297, 87 S.Ct. 1967, 18 L.Ed.2d 1199 (1967). The record here proves that at the time of trial the Government argued that Washington v. United States, supra, had considered “the admission of the transcript of the prior hearing and whether it was proper” and had found “no error.” (Tr. 210) In fact, that was pretty much hornbook law at that time in federal courts. See 3 F. Wharton, Criminal Evidence § 735 at p. 55 (12th ed. 1955) :
      “Testimony given by the defendant at a hearing on his motion to suppress evidence has been admitted in evidence against him at his prosecution.”
      Citing Heller v. United States, 57 F.2d 627 (7th Cir.), cert. denied, 286 U.S. 567, 52 S.Ct. 647, 76 L.Ed. 1298 (1932) ; Vaught v. United States, 7 F.2d 370 (9th Cir. 1925) ; United States v. Lindsly, 7 F.2d 247, 255 (E.D.La.1925), rev’d on other grounds, 12 F.2d 771 (5th Cir. 1926) ; and see State v. Williams, 69 Ohio App. 361, 41 N.E. 717, appeal dismissed, 139 Ohio St. 172, 38 N.E.2d 410 (1941) ; Bell v. State, 94 Tex.Cr.R. 266, 250 S.W. 177 (1923), appeal dismissed, 266 U.S. 640, 45 S.Ct. 483, 69 L.Ed. 483 (1924). 3 J. Wigmore, Evidence § 345 (3d ed. 1940) is not to the contrary. It only states that a judge should hear evidence on voluntariness of a confession out of the presence of the jury. Such reference is inapposite here. Had the Washington panel in the Court of Appeals thought that the issue was not well settled, they would not have decided to dispose of the case by a perfunctory order. And while the Supreme Court’s denial of certiorari in Washington, 354 U.S. 914, 77 S.Ct. 1295, 1 L.Ed.2d 1427 (1957), may be without precedential value, it is not without some significance. It certainly shows that the Supreme Court in 1957 was not overly eager to reverse the old rule of law. That they waited until 1968 to do so in Simmons is further indicative of the 1957 climate. The briefs to the Supreme Court in Washington argue the admissibility of incriminating testimony given by Washington at his pretrial hearing to suppress evidence.
     
      
      . The comment of the dissent in footnote 17 re possible “foreshadowing” by Wright completely misses the point. Our decision here merely holds that this case, since it was completely tried and affirmed on May 14, 1957, over five months before Wright (decided October 30, 1957), was not in any way to be governed by that decision or by Bailey (1967) or Simmons (1968). Obviously a case fully decided before Wright would not be within the “foreshadow” of any rule of law subsequently announced by Wright. To apply Wright to this case would be “backshadowing,” giving Wright an ex post facto application. Also since our decision does not involve any alleged foreshadowing of Wright, we do not consider the limits to which Wright is to be applied. Our opinion only decides the issues raised in this case.
     
      
      . The dissenting opinion fails to consider the total impact that retroactive application would have. We cannot consider that the number of past cases involving this point are limited to those cases where the issue reached the Court of Appeals, because the admissibility of such testimony was so well accepted as being within proper rules of evidence that the issue was only raised on rare occasions.
     
      
      . The criteria guiding resolution of the question [of retroactivity] implicate (a) the purpose to be served by the new standards, (b) the extent of reliance by law enforcement authorities on the old standards, and (e) the effect on the administration of justice of a retroactive application of the new standards. Stovall v. Denno, 388 U.S. 293, 297, 87 S.Ct. 1967, 1970, 11 L.Ed.2d 1199 (1967), quoted in Desist v. United States, 394 U.S. 244, 249, 89 S.Ct. 1030, 1033, 22 L. Ed.2d 248 (1969).
     
      
      . Simmons v. United States, 390 U.S. 377, 389-394, 88 S.Ct. 967, 19 L.Ed.2d 1247 (1968).
     
      
      . Bailey v. United States, 128 U.S.App. D.C. 354, 359-360, 389 F.2d 305, 310-311 (1967).
     
      
      . I express no opinion on the question whether the error in appellant’s trial could properly be considered harmless.
     
      
      . See 390 U.S. at 393-394, 88 S.Ct. 967; of. 3 J. Wigmore, Evidence 345 (3d ed. 1940).
     
      
      . The majority opinion suggests that a contrary conclusion may be implied from the fact that this court in Bailey applied the harmless error doctrine of Chapman v. California, 386 U.S. 18, 87 S.Ct. 824, 17 L.Ed.2d 705 (1967), to the tainted conviction. Supra, pp. 718-720. But Harrington v. California, 395 U.S. 250, 252-254, 89 S.Ct. 1726, 23 L.Ed.2d 824 (1969), applied Chapman to a violation of the rule of Bruton v. United States, 391 U.S. 123, 88 S.Ct. 1620, 20 L.Ed.2d 476 (1968). Of course, Bruton has been retroactively applied because “the terror [there] ‘went to the basis of fair hearing and trial * * *.’ ” Roberts v. Russell, 392 U.S. 293, 294, 88 S.Ct. 1921, 1922, 20 L.Ed.2d 1100 (1968).
     
      
      . 382 U.S. 406, 414-416, 86 S.Ct. 459, 15 L.Ed.2d 453 (1966).
     
      
      . See id. at 413^14, 86 S.Ct. 459.
     
      
      . Id. at 415, 86 S.Ct. at 464. See also id. at 414-415, 86 S.Ct. at 464 n. 12:
      [The values represented by the privilege against self-incrimination] were further catalogued in Mr. Justice Goldberg’s opinion for the Court in Murphy v. Waterfront Comm’n, 378 U.S. 52 [84 S.Ct. 1594, 12 E.Ed.2d 678] * * * : “The privilege against self-incrimination * * * reflects [inter alia] our distrust of self-deprecatory statements; and our realization that the privilege, while sometimes ‘a shelter to the guilty,’ is often ‘a protection to the innocent.’ Quinn v. United States, 349 U.S. 155, 162 [75 S.Ct. 668, 673, 99 L.Ed. 964].” 378 U.S., at 55 [84 S.Ct., at 1597].
     
      
      . Another factor may be relevant here. Mere compulsion to testify at trial, e. g., Griffin v. California, 380 U.S. 609, 85 S.Ct. 1229, 14 L.Ed.2d 106 (1965), is compulsion only to say something, but not necessarily to say something incriminating. But where a defendant is compelled to testify in order to obtain standing to pursue a Fourth Amendment claim, the pressure — as in the case of a coerced extrajudicial confession — is not merely to say something, but to say something incriminating.
     
      
      . 100 U.S.App.D.C. 99, 243 F.2d 43 (1957).
     
      
      . See note 0 of the majority opinion, supra. I fail to see how the majority can find significance in the Sujjreme Court’s denial of certiorari in Washington in view of the fact that such denials are entirely without precedential value. Brown v. Allen, 344 U.S. 443, 489-497, 73 S.Ct. 397, 97 L.Ed. 469 (1953) ; Wade v. Mayo, 334 U.S. 672, 680, 68 S.Ct. 1270, 92 L.Ed. 1647 (1948) ; United States v. Carver, 260 U.S. 482, 490, 43 S.Ct. 181, 67 L.Ed. 361 (1923) ; see Maryland v. Baltimore Radio Show, 338 U.S. 912, 917-920, 70 S.Ct. 252, 94 L.Ed. 502 (1950) (opinion of Mr. Justice Frankfurter).
     
      
      . Cf. Bumiller v. Walker, 95 Ohio St. 344, 116 N.E. 797, 800 (1917).
     
      
      . 102 U.S.App.D.C. 36, 250 F.2d 4 (1957).
     
      
      . Id. at 45, 250 F.2d at 13. Two of the three judges on the Washington panel dissented, but did not reach the point at issue here. The third of the judges on the Washington panel concurred only in the result in Wright.
      
     
      
      . Bailey v. United States, 128 U.S.App. D.C. 354, 359, 389 F.2d 305, 310 (1967).
     
      
      . 3 J. Wigmore, Evidence 345 (3 ed. 1940), the identical passage relied upon in Wright. The court in Bailey also relied upon Jones v. United States, 362 U.S. 257, 80 S.Ct. 725, 4 L.Ed.2d 697 (1960), and Garrity v. New Jersey, 385 U.S. 493, 87 S.Ct. 616, 17 L.Ed.2d 562 (1967), in distinguishing contrary cases from other circuits.
      The majority refuses to consider any possible foreshadowing effect of Wright because it was decided after the trial in the instant case. See note 7 of the majority opinion, supra. Presumably this means that the holding of the majority opinion is limited to trials that took place before the decision in Wright on October 30, 1957.
     
      
      . Although the holding in Bailey was of course directly contrary to that asserted for Washington, the Bailey court did not seem to consider that Washington was of sufficient precedential value to warrant even mention in the opinion. Finally, I am dubious about the majority’s assertion that the practice followed in Washington was hornbook law in the federal courts— at lease in this circuit — at the time. Certainly the passage from Wigmore on Evidence cited in note 17 supra points in a contrary direction.
     
      
      . See p. 722, supra.
      
     
      
      . It is hard to see how such defendants would benefit from Simmons and Bailey in any event. For those persons who lost their Fourth Amendment claim in order to protect their Fifth Amendment rights may now litigate their Fourth Amendment claim on collateral attack regardless of what we decide today. Kaufman v. United States, 394 U.S. 217, 89 S.Ct. 1068, 22 L.Ed.2d 227 (1969) ; Townsend v. Sain, 372 U.S. 293, 313, 317, 83 S.Ct. 745, 9 L.Ed.2d 770 (1963).
     
      
      . As to such persons, the retroactivity vel non of Simmons and Bailey would presumably be irrelevant.
     
      
      . See Mordecai v. United States, 137 U.S. App.D.C. 198, 203, 421 F.2d 1133, 1138 (1969) (opinion of Bazelon, C. J.).
     
      
      . Presumably the contrary state of the law in other circuits is not relevant to a decision on the retroactivity of Bailey, whatever impact it may have regarding the retroactivity of Simmons.
      
     
      
      . Supra note 11.
     
      
      . Supra note 14.
     