
    UNITED STATES of America v. Christopher WATERMAN, Appellant.
    No. 08-2543.
    United States Court of Appeals, Third Circuit.
    Argued March 24, 2009.
    Filed: June 24, 2009.
    Shawn A. Weede, Esq. [Argued], Office of United States Attorney, Wilmington, DE, for Plaintiff-Appellant.
    Edson A. Bostic, Esq., Brian Crockett, Esq. [Argued], Tieffa N. Harper, Esq., Office of Federal Public Defender, Wilmington, DE, for Defendant-Appellee.
    Before RENDELL, AMBRO, and JORDAN, Circuit Judges.
   OPINION OF THE COURT

RENDELL, Circuit Judge.

Although this case presents multiple Fourth Amendment issues — probable cause for an arrest, consent to search, and the admissibility of unwarned inculpatory statements — our inquiry is confined to the sole issue decided by the District Court: whether the defendant was “stopped” under Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 88 S.Ct. 1868, 20 L.Ed.2d 889 (1968).

The District Court held that police effected a Terry stop, that reasonable suspicion for the stop was lacking, and that contraband discovered thereafter must be suppressed. The government urges that the District Court should have determined, based on California v. Hodari D., 499 U.S. 621, 627, 111 S.Ct. 1547, 113 L.Ed.2d 690 (1991), that Waterman was not “seized” within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment. We conclude that we are required to reverse the District Court based upon Hodari D., and will remand for further proceedings.

The scene is properly set by the District Court’s findings of fact, which are not challenged by the parties on appeal. Officers Nowell and Ashe responded to a dispatcher’s report that an anonymous informant had observed a “subject” with a gun at 1009 West Seventh Street in Wilmington, Delaware. The dispatcher did not indicate the tip’s reliability. Officers Nowell and Ashe responded to the call in a marked police vehicle. As the pair proceeded down West Seventh Street, they observed the silhouettes of five people standing on the front porch of a house. Turning on a spotlight, Officer Ashe confirmed that the address of the house was 1009, and that two females and three males were on the porch. Waterman was standing in the middle of the group, near the front door to the residence. Getting out of the police cruiser, Officer Ashe positioned herself 8-10 feet from the residence, while Officer Nowell approached the house. Ashe did not observe any weapons but ordered the individuals on the porch to place their hands in the air for safety reasons. All complied except Waterman, who kept his hands in his jacket pockets. The District Court found the following events ensued:

7. From her vantage point, Ashe had an unobstructed view of defendant. Ashe did not see a weapon in defendant’s hands; however, based on her training, Ashe suspected that defendant might have been armed because he had moved his hands toward his waistband. Ashe and Nowell drew their firearms as Ashe repeatedly commanded defendant to put his hands in the air. Defendant did not comply; he moved one of his hands behind his back and turned the doorknob of the front door. The door didn’t open. Ashe thought the door was locked. Ashe continued, unsuccessfully, to order defendant to show his hands. Ashe and Nowell maintained their weapons in a drawn position, aimed at the individuals standing on the porch.
8. Just then, Deborah Waters opened the door and stepped onto the porch. As Deborah Waters exited, defendant entered the residence. Nowell, standing near the porch, thrust his leg into the doorway to prevent the door from being shut.

A. 7 (internal citations omitted).

The District Court concluded that Waterman was effectively “stopped” when Officer Ashe commanded everyone on the porch to put their hands in the air. Hence, what transpired next — Waterman’s “failure to follow Ashe’s command,” the officers’ “drawing their weapons,” and Waterman’s “suspected conduct in the residence” — could not “cure this initial unconstitutional violation.” A. 16. Based on the unlawful “seizure” on the porch, the Court suppressed a gun and drugs subsequently discovered in the residence.

In Hodari D., the Supreme Court held that an arrest “requires either physical force ... or, where that is absent, submission to the assertion of authority.” 499 U.S. at 626, 111 S.Ct. 1547 (emphasis in original). The Court explained that the concept of physical force necessary for a “seizure” does not consist merely of the show of authority, but, rather, requires the application of force or “laying on of hands.”

With respect to “submission,” the Court noted that compliance with police orders to stop should be encouraged. This would seem to require something more than a momentary pause or mere inaction. The Court did not differentiate between an “arrest” and a Terry stop, and we have universally looked to the requirements set forth in Hodari D. to determine whether a police encounter with a citizen constitutes a “seizure” within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment.

Here, there was no application of physical force. The police drew their guns in a “show of authority.” While this act definitely constituted a display of force, we conclude that it fell short of the physical force required under Hodari D.

Similarly, there was no “submission” by Waterman. While the others on the porch raised their hands in compliance with the officers’ directive, Waterman failed to do so. Instead, he moved his hands toward his waistband, and ultimately retreated into the house.

It will be of little comfort to Waterman that we agree with the District Court that, had police effected a “seizure” on the porch, Waterman’s rights would have been violated because the anonymous tip did not provide officers with a reasonable suspicion that he was armed. However, the absence of either element required for a “seizure” under Hodari D. is fatal.

Accordingly, we will reverse the Order of the District Court suppressing the evidence and remand for further proceedings. 
      
      . For example, the Supreme Court explained that a police command to “Stop, in the name of the law!” — unaccompanied by physical contact with the suspect — does not constitute a "seizure.” Hodari D., 499 U.S. at 626, 111 S.Ct. 1547.
     
      
      . Hodari D. suggests that touching is required — "[tjhere can be no arrest without either touching or submission,” 499 U.S. at 626-27, 111 S.Ct. 1547 — but at least one other court has found the Court in Hodari D. not to be "explicit” on this point, believing the Court may have “assumed” it. See United States v. Holloway, 962 F.2d 451, 456 (5th Cir.1992). We need not decide whether contact is necessary to effect a "seizure,” as our holding is tailored to the facts presented: the police conduct here did not involve physical force, as the police merely drew their guns.
     
      
      . Although Hodari D. involved a suspect engaged in headlong flight, we have since examined acts of defiance that are less overt. Our precedents suggest that "submission” under Hodari D. requires, at minimum, that a suspect manifest compliance with police orders. See, e.g., Couden v. Duffy, 446 F.3d 483 (3d Cir.2006) (identifying as dispositive whether the suspect “manifests” a belief that he has not been seized (quoting United States v. Smith, 423 F.3d 25, 31 (1st Cir.2005))); United States v. Hernandez, 27 F.3d 1403, 1406-1407 (9th Cir.1994) (no "submission” to police authority when suspect, instructed by officer to "stop right there,” pauses momentarily and makes eye contact with the officer but flees thereafter); see also United States v. Valentine, 232 F.3d 350, 358-59 (3d Cir.2000) (citing United States v. Johnson, 212 F.3d 1313, 1315 (D.C.Cir.2000)) (no submission to police authority when defendant disobeys police order to raise his hands); United States v. Coggins, 986 F.2d 651, 654 (3d Cir.1993) (suspect submits to police authority when he obeys officer's command to sit down). On the other hand, a "stop” is effected when police wear down an uncooperative suspect by making clear the need for compliance. Johnson v. Campbell, 332 F.3d 199, 206 (3d Cir.2003).
     
      
      . See, e.g., United States v. Brown, 448 F.3d 239, 245-46 (3d Cir.2006); Valentine, 232 F.3d at 358; Coggins, 986 F.2d at 653-54. Whether the police action authorized by Hodari D. represents something distinct from the traditional "Terry stop” is not a question we need confront in this case. See Hodari D., 499 U.S. at 626, 111 S.Ct. 1547 (Stevens, J. dissenting). We need note only that, after Hodari D., the attributes of a "stop” as set forth therein must be present in order for the Fourth Amendment to be implicated.
     
      
      . Couden, 446 F.3d at 493-94 (no "seizure” when defendant flees after police draw their weapons); Valentine, 232 F.3d at 358-59 (citing Johnson, 212 F.3d at 1315 for the proposition that no "seizure” occurs when police, drawing their weapons, order a defendant to raise his hands, but he refuses); Fontenot v. Cormier, 56 F.3d 669, 674 (5th Cir.1995) (no "seizure” when police, rushing the defendant’s car with their guns drawn, order him out of the vehicle, but he flees); Edwards v. Giles, 51 F.3d 155, 156 (8th Cir.1995) (no “seizure” when police point gun at defendant, but he refuses to submit to officer's authority).
     